I wanted to introduce myself, my name is Jonathan. I go by Rayzer. I'm newish to BBSing. I've had an interest for several years (Didn't get to experience it in the 90s) and I've dialed into a few boards pretty consistently but this year I wanted to run my own. My board isn't anything special but I've spent several weeks on it now to get it to where it is.

I'm interested in getting to know anybody that wants to talk to me. I work professionally in IT and have several hobbies that span that space. I have a homelab with several servers running my favorite hypervisor, Proxmox. I've ran my board as a windows vm, linux vm, pi and finally settled on a standalone micro pc that runs linux.

I've made a few friends already here in the community. I'm wanting to make more. I'm new to Zer0Net. I'm sure some of you have seen me in other nets recently. I like to frequent the MRC. Feel free to reach out to me or check out my board.

Thanks!

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on 22 Oct 2024, Rayzer said...

I wanted to introduce myself, my name is Jonathan. I go by Rayzer. I'm newish to BBSing.

It's always intriguing to meet people who are joining the scene for the first time so late. Looks like you got echomail working without an issue. Welcome!

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It's always intriguing to meet people who are joining the scene for the fi time so late. Looks like you got echomail working without an issue. Welcom

Thanks! I find it fun to tinker with this stuff. BBSing feels more personal and less of what the internet is today. That's probably why I like it.

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It's always intriguing to meet people who are joining the scene for t time so late. Looks like you got echomail working without an issue. W

Thanks! I find it fun to tinker with this stuff. BBSing feels more personal and less of what the internet is today. That's probably why I like it.

yeah, i gotta ask, how did you find this rabbithole of a hobby? haha

i can't imagine trying to convince someone to hit up an 80x25 terminal nowadays if they weren't into it back then.

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I've made a few friends already here in the community. I'm wanting to
make more. I'm new to Zer0Net. I'm sure some of you have seen me in
other nets recently. I like to frequent the MRC. Feel free to reach out
to me or check out my board.

Welcome! I'll come check out your board for sure. Pretty cool you stumbled onto BBSing after the heyday. I'm curious, what was your first interaction with a BBS? How did you discover this hobby?

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yeah, i gotta ask, how did you find this rabbithole of a hobby? haha

So I stumbled upon Legend of the Green Dragon because I was looking for some web games to host for friends and of course that led to Legend of the Red Dragon, which ended up in a BBS. I was hooked at that point. I like text based things. I mean I live in a terminal sometimes for work. Haha.

i can't imagine trying to convince someone to hit up an 80x25 terminal now if they weren't into it back then.

I've tried to get others interested but you know how that went. :(

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Welcome! I'll come check out your board for sure. Pretty cool you stumbled BBSing after the heyday. I'm curious, what was your first interaction with BBS? How did you discover this hobby?

My first interaction with a BBS was StackFault's Bottomless Abyss. That came from looking into BBSs in general after discovering LORD. Not a super interesting story but here I am. Haha.

Thanks for checking out the board by the way :)

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I'm interested in getting to know anybody that wants to talk to me. I
work professionally in IT and have several hobbies that span that space.
I have a homelab with several servers running my favorite hypervisor, Proxmox. I've ran my board as a windows vm, linux vm, pi and finally settled on a standalone micro pc that runs linux.

What was the reasoning you settled on a micro pc?

I've made a few friends already here in the community. I'm wanting to
make more. I'm new to Zer0Net. I'm sure some of you have seen me in
other nets recently. I like to frequent the MRC. Feel free to reach out
to me or check out my board.

Welcome aboard...

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Thanks! I find it fun to tinker with this stuff. BBSing feels more personal and less of what the internet is today. That's probably why I like it.

Agreed. Internet feels like a monopoly of companies coming up with whatever way to make money.

I hate today's modern social media. Some is fine such as reddit and discord where you can keep your personal data, personal.

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Rayzer wrote to All <=-

I'm interested in getting to know anybody that wants to talk to me. I
work professionally in IT and have several hobbies that span that
space. I have a homelab with several servers running my favorite hypervisor, Proxmox. I've ran my board as a windows vm, linux vm, pi
and finally settled on a standalone micro pc that runs linux.

You'll fit in just fine. :) Lots of Proxmox and homelabbers lurking
on the nets out here, I'm a Proxmox fan myself. I took the hardware my
BBS was running on, bare metal, and converted it to a Proxmox server
with enough horsepower to run the BBS and several other VMs as well.
I've been a convert ever since.

I've made a few friends already here in the community. I'm wanting to
make more. I'm new to Zer0Net. I'm sure some of you have seen me in
other nets recently. I like to frequent the MRC. Feel free to reach out
to me or check out my board.

Welcome!


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What was the reasoning you settled on a micro pc?

I'm not sure why but I like that the board runs on it's own independent thing. The Pi version has a lot of bugs. (A49 would not poll the hubs at all for me and A48 has a bug with python that reports that the mystic library is some weird large number version of python and spit out a warning constantly.) that's why I settled on a micro pc. It has more than enough power to run the board and doesn't use much power. :)

Welcome aboard...

Thank you! :)

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Agreed. Internet feels like a monopoly of companies coming up with whateve to make money.

It's all about the money now days. :(

I hate today's modern social media. Some is fine such as reddit and discor where you can keep your personal data, personal.

I like reddit but I hate where it's going. I guess it's inevitable back to being about the money.

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You'll fit in just fine. :) Lots of Proxmox and homelabbers lurking
on the nets out here, I'm a Proxmox fan myself. I took the hardware my
BBS was running on, bare metal, and converted it to a Proxmox server
with enough horsepower to run the BBS and several other VMs as well.
I've been a convert ever since.

Proxmox works great. I did have my board on my proxmox stack but I've been moving away from my proxmox stack. I have a huge decomissioned server that sucks up a lot of power. My electric bill doesn't like me. LOL

Welcome!

Thanks! I feel welcomed. :)

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On Wed, Oct 23 05:02:58 -0500, you wrote:

i can't imagine trying to convince someone to hit up an 80x25 terminal nowadays if they weren't into it back then.

Wait what? Back then 80x25 took up the whole screen. It wasn't just a terminal window. We didn't have a choice to be into it or not, as that's all we had! :D

Regards,
Nick

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I wanted to introduce myself, my name is Jonathan. I go by Rayzer. I'm

Hi Sir, feel warmly welcomed :)

I'm interested in getting to know anybody that wants to talk to me. I
work professionally in IT and have several hobbies that span that space.
I have a homelab with several servers running my favorite hypervisor, Proxmox.

With that keyword [Proxmox] and seeing 8 answers already briefly, but not even focused to check who has responded to you already, I'm sure Paulie420 is among them :)

Welcome to ZeroNet.

-h1

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Just one IT advice as I was curious about your website under main domain of yours. It reports several certificate/dns settings issues in regular browser and then redirects to keycloak admin panel hosted on some other domain redirected from your rayzer.net

If that's intentional deception you aimed at... fine :)
but if not... then you instantly target yourself to all known keycloak vulnerabilities and you better keep it updated or non available to all IPs from the internet... unless you like more pentesting by people who're curious what realms are there... inside :)

-h1

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i can't imagine trying to convince someone to hit up an 80x25 terminal nowadays if they weren't into it back then.

You'd be surprised how sexy-cyperpunky view it is for many.. especially on a custom rpi made computer.

-h1

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Agreed. Internet feels like a monopoly of companies coming up with whatever way to make money.

Only if you position yourself a consumer.

I hate today's modern social media. Some is fine such as reddit and discord where you can keep your personal data, personal.

Both are beyond their prime times already. I think all us nerds have adopted federated Internet once again and that gives everybody a chance.

-h1

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Just one IT advice as I was curious about your website under main domain o yours. It reports several certificate/dns settings issues in regular brows and then redirects to keycloak admin panel hosted on some other domain redirected from your rayzer.net

Yeah that's embarrassing. Haha. I've kinda of forgotten about that. I've fixed it. Thanks! Luckly I've migrated from that keycloak a while back :) You've probably found my other stuff though :P

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Hi Accession,
In a message to Jinkusu you wrote:

Wait what? Back then 80x25 took up the whole screen. It wasn't just a terminal window. We didn't have a choice to be into it or not, as
that's all we had! :D

I wish I could get Golded to work in 80x25. LOL That's my complaint with modern tools... I can't freaking see anything. I need HUGE GIANT fonts now.

That's another reason I like this windows 3.1 app so much, I have the font
set at a size I can see.

/me goes outside and shakes fist at the sky about poor eyesight.

Shawn

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Proxmox works great. I did have my board on my proxmox stack but I've
been moving away from my proxmox stack. I have a huge decomissioned
server that sucks up a lot of power. My electric bill doesn't like me.
LOL

I'm running my server off a desktop xeon system with 300 watt power supply at the moment.

Moving into the future, I'm going to look at a mini PC. Something like the GMKTec.

I really only have a few VM's running and most stuff is running under docker containers now a days.

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I'm running my server off a desktop xeon system with 300 watt power supply the moment.

Ahhh yeah. Mine was on a R420 Xeon system with redunant power supplies, The power hog. Lol.

Moving into the future, I'm going to look at a mini PC. Something like the GMKTec.
I really only have a few VM's running and most stuff is running under dock containers now a days.

The micro pc that I chose was a Beelink with a celeron quad core. I just have the board on it currently. Utilization of course is sitting around 2% lol. It's not bad so far. I doubt it's using much power at all.

- Rayzer
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Tiny wrote to Accession <=-

Hi Accession,
In a message to Jinkusu you wrote:

Wait what? Back then 80x25 took up the whole screen. It wasn't just a terminal window. We didn't have a choice to be into it or not, as
that's all we had! :D

I wish I could get Golded to work in 80x25. LOL That's my complaint
with modern tools... I can't freaking see anything. I need HUGE GIANT fonts now.

With DOSBOX-X and a 16:9 monitor, I could tweak the font stretching so
it took the entire screen. With NetRunner's smoothed fonts, it was
relaxing to view. Big ass fonts, full screen, nicely rendered.

I have an ultrawide monitor now, 25:9 is too wide to stretch a full-screen DOSBOX window. :(

That's another reason I like this windows 3.1 app so much, I have the
font set at a size I can see.

/me goes outside and shakes fist at the sky about poor eyesight.

Shawn

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niter3 wrote to Rayzer <=-

I'm running my server off a desktop xeon system with 300 watt power
supply at the moment.

Moving into the future, I'm going to look at a mini PC. Something like
the GMKTec.

My cobbled-together Proxmox system is a Thinkpad laptop with an i7. 2
cores, 4 threads, works sufficiently for now. Maxxed the ram at 32GB,
put in a SSD, and I'm using a USB ethernet adapter as a second NIC.

I got the laptop because the screen is scratched and it's missing
keycaps - the rest has been picked up opportunistically over the past
couple of years.

You have to love having a server with a built-in battery backup. :)




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You have to love having a server with a built-in battery backup. :)

Yep, and much cheaper buying real server hardware, expecially for home use.

Some people, go a liiiiitttllleeee over board. :D

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On Thu, Oct 24 10:41:02 -0500, you wrote:

I wish I could get Golded to work in 80x25. LOL That's my complaint with modern tools... I can't freaking see anything. I need HUGE GIANT fonts now.

Why can't you? Can't you set your resolution so low that two Windows icons take up your whole screen? 640x480 should suffice!

That's another reason I like this windows 3.1 app so much, I have the font set at a size I can see.

What do you use otherwise? I think there are zoom settings on modern Windows that may get you where you need to be. I think I use 125% (even with glasses) but you can go quite a bit higher than that.

/me goes outside and shakes fist at the sky about poor eyesight.

If you aim south, I'll aim north. Maybe we can shake our fists at the same cloud. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hi Poindexter,
On <Fri, 24 Oct 24>, you wrote me:

I have an ultrawide monitor now, 25:9 is too wide to stretch a
full-screen DOSBOX window. :(

Yes, I have the dosbox stuff working full screen on my laptop, but
the desktop has a massive screen, but there I don't need to do it
as the font is big enough my blind ass can see it. :)

Shawn

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Hi Accession,

Why can't you? Can't you set your resolution so low that two Windows
icons take up your whole screen? 640x480 should suffice!

Laugh.

What do you use otherwise? I think there are zoom settings on modern Windows that may get you where you need to be. I think I use 125%
(even with glasses) but you can go quite a bit higher than that.

I'm at 125%. I have the glasses, but it's a constant dance of taking
them on and off. If you held up a post it note in buffalo I could read
it across the lake in the Dirty.

If it's in my hand I can't see it. LOL

/me goes outside and shakes fist at the sky about poor eyesight.

If you aim south, I'll aim north. Maybe we can shake our fists at the
same cloud. :)

Sounds like a plan!

Shawn

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On Fri, Oct 25 12:08:34 -0500, you wrote:

I'm at 125%. I have the glasses, but it's a constant dance of taking
them on and off. If you held up a post it note in buffalo I could read
it across the lake in the Dirty.

If it's in my hand I can't see it. LOL

How old are your glasses? Do you need bifocals maybe?

Regards,
Nick

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Hi Accession,
On <Sat, 25 Oct 24>, you wrote me:

If it's in my hand I can't see it. LOL

How old are your glasses? Do you need bifocals maybe?

They are only a year old. I don't think I need bifocals because
as I said I can see distance no problem, I just can't see anything
close.

Shawn

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On Sat, Oct 26 11:40:10 -0500, you wrote:

How old are your glasses? Do you need bifocals maybe?

They are only a year old. I don't think I need bifocals because
as I said I can see distance no problem, I just can't see anything
close.

Right, the regular glasses part would be for distance. The bifocal part would be for up close.

From what I've heard, though, they suck to wear all the time due to them basically being two different perscriptions split horizontally in the middle.

Not sure if your eye doctor could do another exam for specifically seeing up close? Maybe a 2nd pair of glasses just for reading and/or computer usage would be needed.. Might be difficult to correct your specific nearsighted and farsighted issues at the same time.

Regards,
Nick

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From what I've heard, though, they suck to wear all the time due to them basically being two different perscriptions split horizontally in the middl

They do, I had them, but you can get them where they aren't "split" they are sorta ovaled on the lens. I was constantly moving like 1/8" just to see something. It pissed me off. I could see great close, far sucked. So I got lasik, now I can see a mile away, but can't see shit infront of my face without readers. Wish I would've done ie 20 years ago when my eye were able to do both.

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On Sat, Oct 26 04:38:34 -0500, you wrote:

They do, I had them, but you can get them where they aren't "split"
they are sorta ovaled on the lens. I was constantly moving like
1/8" just to see something. It pissed me off. I could see great
close, far sucked. So I got lasik, now I can see a mile away, but
can't see shit infront of my face without readers. Wish I would've
done ie 20 years ago when my eye were able to do both.

I've been wanting to do lasik. I don't know why I haven't yet, to be honest. My neighbor just had his done earlier this year (at 53 years old) and he loves it. Wishes he would have done it a long time ago. Here I am, 10 years younger, hemming and hawing over whether or not I should do it. :)

I think the main thing is, my glasses don't bother me all that much. But I've been on the very edge of failing my vision test at my yearly DOT physical for the last couple years now (I purposely take the test without my glasses), so the time is coming.

Regards,
Nick

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Accession wrote to Tiny <=-

How old are your glasses? Do you need bifocals maybe?

Progressives are the way to go. There's no line, the prescription
changes seamlessly between near/far. Takes a bit of getting used to and
takes some re-arranging your monitors to make sure they're in the
correct magnification zone when you look at them.

Some people who need readers get progressives with no correction at the
top for distance. That way, you have near correction at the bottom, look
far through the area with no correction, and don't need to continually
fumble with glasses.

The only time they fall short is working on cars or inside of computers.
It's hard to get the near focus right when you're upside down under a
dash or trying to read text off a motherboard. For that, I use a plain
pair of dollar store readers.



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Hi Accession,
On <Sun, 26 Oct 24>, you wrote me:

Right, the regular glasses part would be for distance. The bifocal
part would be for up close.

The regular part would be glass. My mother's are like that, they are
glass no script but the reading part is in the bottom part. She's used
to always wearing glasses and my nephew who is autistic will not
accept her without them on. (Oh back story - she got her eyes
fixed LOL)

computer usage would be needed.. Might be difficult to correct your specific nearsighted and farsighted issues at the same time.

The only pair I bother with are the ones for reading, I just think things changed a bit a year ago which was just after I got them adjusted and
I need another exam.

Just around here the gubment will only pay for an exam every 2 years
so if I want one before that I have to pay.

Shawn

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On Sun, Oct 27 11:57:08 -0500, you wrote:

Just around here the gubment will only pay for an exam every 2 years
so if I want one before that I have to pay.

No worries. My non-gubment insurance has the same coverage for myself. However, my kids can get an exam and new glasses every year if they need it.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that the kids are covered that well, but imagine.. the insurance *I* work for, covers *ME* less. :D

Regards,
Nick

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Tiny wrote to Accession <=-

Just around here the gubment will only pay for an exam every 2 years
so if I want one before that I have to pay.

I have vision insurance through VSP, and they pay for bi-annual exams.
(Wait, is that every 2 years or twice a year? I meant the former...)

My prescription has stabilized, not that it's that bad. Two years seems
like a good schedule - but I've got good vision, old eyes. My son had
bad vision, he could benefit from yearly exams and glasses more than I.



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Hi Accession,
On <Mon, 27 Oct 24>, you wrote me:

No worries. My non-gubment insurance has the same coverage for myself. However, my kids can get an exam and new glasses every year if they
need it.

My non-gubment insurance is the same. It covers one exam every two years,
as I need to re-tract my last statment. OHIP doesn't pay for any eye exam once you are 16 until you are 67. (For me - I was born a few months too late to retire at 65)

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that the kids are covered that
well, but imagine.. the insurance *I* work for, covers *ME* less. :D

Yup! All I care about is they cover 80% of my medication and dental
as when I had oral cancer in 2007 I lost most of my back teeth so having
to use ones to chew that are not designed for it is hard on them.

Plus I don't care what the Doc says, I know one of the medications they gave
me back then contributes to my teeth being much weeker then they used to
be.

Shawn

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i can't imagine trying to convince someone to hit up an 80x25 terminal nowadays if they weren't into it back then.

Wait what? Back then 80x25 took up the whole screen. It wasn't just a terminal window. We didn't have a choice to be into it or not, as that's all we had! :D

of course! i just meant it's not a pretty gui with high resolution shiny and low latency click-o-vision responses!

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On Tue, Oct 29 01:58:02 -0500, you wrote:

of course! i just meant it's not a pretty gui with high resolution
shiny and low latency click-o-vision responses!

I miss those simpler times. :)

Regards,
Nick

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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